If you go out of your way to say it's non-platonic, then you're saying it's sexual. . . . They're trying to spin this and it can't be spun.

Our goal for three years was to reach $20,000, and we just couldn't get across it. But when we finally got over the top last year, I told Alex, I think we can reach $100,000.

The fact is, this church is real close, and we've basically lost two people that we love so much.